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- Sigma 75-300 4.5-5.6 Panasonic GX85 NATURAL
This lens is AMAZING...it delivers so much contrast and color that I had to tone those down (to get a "REAL" image) and the SHARPNESS is almost a perfect match for this sensor (not to sharp, etc.) though I had to use some NOISE REDUCTION to keep things looking real. Any links below are affiliate links. FILTER: None Sigma 75-300 4.5-5.6 ADAPTER: Nikon F/G-M43 Panasonic GX85 Natural "PHOTO STYLE" LENS-SENSOR LUT CONTRAST -5 SHARPNESS -0 NOISE +3 SATURATION -2 HIGHLIGHT SHADOW OFF iDYNAMIC OFF LUMINANCE LEVEL Unsharp Mask* ADOBE POST-PRODUCTION AMOUNT RADIUS THRESHOLD Blur / Sharpen DAVINCI RESOLVE POST-PRODUCTION LENS @FULL WIDE LENS @MID-ZOOM LENS @FULL TELE REAL RATINGS After testing each lens-sensor combo, I like to know if the rendering is going to look realistic SOOC (S traight O ut o f C amera) or if it will need a LUT (to match the shots to other lenses and cameras). CONTRAST B IS THE CONTRAST "REAL"? SHARPNESS B IS THE SHARPNESS "REAL"? NOISE A IS THE NOISE "REAL"? COLOR C IS THE COLOR "REAL"? *Click here to learn more about "REAL" Ratings . These ratings are AFTER my custom settings are applied (most combos don't look real good with default settings). NOTES: This lens is AMAZING...it delivers so much contrast and color that I had to tone those down (to get a "REAL" image) and the SHARPNESS is almost a perfect match for this sensor (not to sharp, etc.) though I had to use some NOISE REDUCTION to keep things looking real. The goal of our camera settings is to improve what we call the "lens-sensor relationship" by adjusting the contrast, sharpness, noise reduction and color to create an image that looks less digital and more organic (more like film, etc). Therefore, the first step is to apply the custom settings while shooting, and the second is to add a lens-sensor LUT, to finalize the image.
- Thrifty 3 SEARCH | SilverLight Photo & Video Co.
Before you can take the Thrifty 3 Challenge you must search...as lore-like as it sounds. Yes, we do earn a small commission "from qualifying purchases" when you use the links below, but our goal is to help you to get your kit, as quickly as possible...so that's another reason we do it. Sometimes, we might sell these items on our eBay store too, but that means you'll be getting the exact gear we were testing, so you know it works. BUY THE THRIFTY 3 (ON EBAY*) & THEN TAKE THE CHALLENGE Before you can take the Thrifty 3 Challenge you must search...as lore-like as it sounds. Yes, we do earn a small commission "from qualifying purchases" when you use the links below, but our goal is to help you to get your kit, as quickly as possible...so that's another reason we do it. Sometimes, we might sell these items on our eBay store too, but that means you'll be getting the exact gear we were testing, so you know it works. Select a CATEGORY The Nifty Fifty (TIGHT) THRIFTY 3 Minolta AF 50 1.7 (OPTION #1 for "TIGHT" shot) I’ll cut to the chase and say this lens is super useful but it’s one of the least expensive lenses I use. It’s a 1990s vintage Quantaray AF 70-300 (for Nikon F mount) and it’s almost identical to some of the Tamron and Promaster versions (they are optically identical, per testing). [NO REVIEW YET] SEARCH EBAY* As an Amazon or eBay Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases, which means I receive a commission if you make a purchase through a link (at no additional cost to you). The Kit Lens (WIDE) THRIFTY 3 A vintage full-frame kit lens (OPTION #1 for "WIDE" shot) The interesting thing about getting a wide angle lens, is if you have a full frame camera, you can use an affordable old 35/28-70 kit lens (from back in the film era). So, the CAMERA is more expensive, but the availability of inexpensive kit lenses is greater. Kit lenses for cropped sensor cameras, especially Micro Four Thirds, are a bit more expensive (not so much with 1.5/1.6x crop cameras though). READ REVIEW SEARCH EBAY* As an Amazon or eBay Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases, which means I receive a commission if you make a purchase through a link (at no additional cost to you). The 1990s 70-300 (TELE) THRIFTY 3 Quantaray 70-300 1:2 MACRO (OPTION #1 for "TELE" shot) I’ll cut to the chase and say this lens is super useful but it’s one of the least expensive lenses I use. It’s a 1990s vintage Quantaray AF 70-300 4-5.6 1:2 MACRO version (for Nikon) and it’s almost identical to some of the Tamron and Promaster versions (of the same specifications) which leads me to believe they were manufactured by the same source, and that they are optically identical, which I proved out during testing. READ REVIEW SEARCH EBAY* As an Amazon or eBay Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases, which means I receive a commission if you make a purchase through a link (at no additional cost to you).
- Panasonic 45-200 4-5.6 BPM14 Panasonic GH5 NATURAL
It is going to need a LUT, but these custom settings are making it look pretty realistic in a lot of ways (it has potential). This test is with a Tiffen BPM14 (Black Pro Mist 1/4) which I am trying because the SHARPNESS of this lens is more of an issue on the GH5 than it was on the G85 (which has a lower-megapixel sensor). So now, even with the diffusion, there is still too much SHARPNESS, but I am leaving the settings where they are, because the overall rendering is as realistic as I can get it SOOC (then the LUT will need to darken the shadows and add COLOR back in). Any links below are affiliate links. FILTER: Tiffen Black Pro Mist 1/4 Panasonic 45-200 4-5.6 ADAPTER: None (Native Mount) Panasonic GH5 Natural "PHOTO STYLE" LENS-SENSOR LUT CONTRAST -0 SHARPNESS -3 NOISE +3 SATURATION -1 HIGHLIGHT SHADOW -2+3 iDYNAMIC OFF LUMINANCE LEVEL 0-255 Unsharp Mask* ADOBE POST-PRODUCTION AMOUNT ? RADIUS ? THRESHOLD ? Blur / Sharpen DAVINCI RESOLVE POST-PRODUCTION LENS @FULL WIDE LENS @MID-ZOOM LENS @FULL TELE REAL RATINGS After testing each lens-sensor combo, I like to know if the rendering is going to look realistic SOOC (S traight O ut o f C amera) or if it will need a LUT (to match the shots to other lenses and cameras). CONTRAST B IS THE CONTRAST "REAL"? SHARPNESS A IS THE SHARPNESS "REAL"? NOISE C IS THE NOISE "REAL"? COLOR D IS THE COLOR "REAL"? *Click here to learn more about "REAL" Ratings . These ratings are AFTER my custom settings are applied (most combos don't look real good with default settings). NOTES: It is going to need a LUT, but these custom settings are making it look pretty realistic in a lot of ways (it has potential). This test is with a Tiffen BPM14 (Black Pro Mist 1/4) which I am trying because the SHARPNESS of this lens is more of an issue on the GH5 than it was on the G85 (which has a lower-megapixel sensor). So now, even with the diffusion, there is still too much SHARPNESS, but I am leaving the settings where they are, because the overall rendering is as realistic as I can get it SOOC (then the LUT will need to darken the shadows and add COLOR back in). The goal of our camera settings is to improve what we call the "lens-sensor relationship" by adjusting the contrast, sharpness, noise reduction and color to create an image that looks less digital and more organic (more like film, etc). Therefore, the first step is to apply the custom settings while shooting, and the second is to add a lens-sensor LUT, to finalize the image.
- Zoom H1essential | SilverLight Photo & Video Co.
Okay, the Zoom H1essential is now my #1 budget recommendation for an audio recorder. I used to recommend the original H1 (even when the H1n became available) but the 32-bit float feature of the H1e made it an easy decision. One underrated thing I like about the H1essential is the NUMERICAL headphone out level (perfect for a passthrough!) AUDIO Zoom H1e (Remember, these settings are specific to this audio recorder, paired to each microphone listed below.) The Zoom H1essential is now my #1 budget recommendation for an audio recorder. I used to recommend the original H1 (even when the H1n became available) but the 32-bit float feature of the H1e made it an easy decision. One underrated thing I like about the H1essential is the NUMERICAL headphone out level (perfect for a passthrough!) (BUILT-IN MIC) COMICA RODE SARAMONIC SENNHEISER SHURE ZOOM OTHER (BUILT-IN MIC) (Built-In Mic) Zoom H1n (XY Mics) COMICA Comica C omi ca VM20 (Shotgun) Comica VM30 (Wireless Shotgun) Comica VM40 ( Wireless Shotgun) Comica CVM-M-O1 (Lavalier) RODE Rode Rode Lavalier ii Rode Lavalier Go (Not Reco mmended) Rode VideoMic (Not Recommended) Rode VideoMic Pro (Not Recommended) Rode VideoMic Pro R (Not Recommended) Rode VideoMic Pro+ Rode VideoMicro (Not Recommended) SARAMONIC Saramonic S aramonic SR-M1W (for Blin k 500) Saramonic SR-VM4 Saramonic VMIC SENNHEISER Sennheiser Sennheiser Professional MKE 400 SHURE Shure Shure VP83 LensHopper ZOOM Zoom Zoom LMF-1 (Lavalier) Zoom LMF-2 (Lavalier) OTHER Other 7RYMS Lavalier (for iRAY DW30) JK MIC-J 017 (Lavalier) JK MIC-J 055 (Lavalier) Takstar SGC-598 (Shotgun) Takstar SGC-600 (Not Recommended) Xvive LV1 (Lavalier) Xvive LV2 (Lavalier) GAFFER TAPE SUPPLIED BY REMEMBER TO "REFRESH" PAGE TO SEE NEW DATA
- Reviews | SilverLight Photo & Video Co.
These are real, long-term reviews of gear I actually use. Keep in mind these reviews are just my opinion, and are not supposed to be comprehensive or the final say about these products. These are mostly to help me remember what items worked for me, and what didn't. So, the product may work for you and your needs, but it didn't fit within my Q-P-A-C-E system. REAL REVIEWS Long-term reviews of budget photo & video gear. BUDGET Lights READ REVIEWS REAL REVIEWS LIGHTS Are there any good budget filmmaking lights out there? If so, how do you know? GO REAL REVIEWS AUDIO Looking for good budget filmmaking audio recorders & microphones? GO REAL REVIEWS CAMERAS A good camera and lens can make a huge difference, but do they have to be expensive? GO REAL REVIEWS & MORE More things that may help (especially if you're a frugal photographer or filmmaker). GO These reviews are just my opinion and are focused on my Q.P.A.C.E. packing method, so they're not comprehensive. I wrote these mostly to help me remember what items worked for my KIT PLANS (and which didn't). If I said anything negative I apologize, as these products still may work well for you in your situation, but they were not Q.P.A.C.E (Quality, Portable, Affordable, Common, Easy-to-Use) enough for my budget KIT PLANS .
- Panasonic 12-60 3.5-5.6 Panasonic G85 NATURAL Tiffen 58UC1
NEW NOTES: ... (BELOW IS FROM TIFFEN BPM18): (These new settings are for using the lens with the Tiffen Black Pro Mist 1/8.) I started this test because I wasn't able to get this lens-sensor combo (or with G85) to work very well UNFILTERED (see my older notes below). So, while testing I noticed a number of interesting things, including that this filter (with the specific settings I use) is reducing the compression artifacts that were occurring in video (when using it UNFILTERED). Also, no surprise, but using this filter makes this lens more prone to flare (need a lens hood or matte box) and though this can reduce the contrast in certain lighting situations (i.e. pointing toward a light source) the flare doesn't look that bad. So, while I didn't like the results of this lens UNFILTERED, I now feel pretty good about using it with these settings (which include the Tiffen BPM18/Black Pro Mist 1/8). OLDER NOTES (from UNFILTERED test): When I started this test, I was surprised, as I had heard so many people say good things about this lens, but when compared with a lot of the vintage lenses I've been testing, this thing isn't very good...so let me explain. When I started this test (at -0-0-0-0 using the Natural profile) what immediately jumped out at me were the outlines on the edges of objects, which I'm pretty sure is due to over-sharpening...yet at the same time, the image was soft and needed sharpening! This is a problem, because to remove the outlines on the edges of things, you have to REDUCE the SHARPENING...but doing that will mean the image needs even MORE sharpening during post production, so I may have to see how far I can take the sharpening in post production (using Davinci Resolve). Any links below are affiliate links. FILTER: Tiffen Ultra Contrast 1 Panasonic 12-60 3.5-5.6 ADAPTER: None (Native Mount) Panasonic G85 Natural "PHOTO STYLE" LENS-SENSOR LUT CONTRAST -0 SHARPNESS -3 NOISE +4 SATURATION -0 HIGHLIGHT SHADOW -2+3 iDYNAMIC OFF LUMINANCE LEVEL 16-255 Unsharp Mask* ADOBE POST-PRODUCTION AMOUNT RADIUS THRESHOLD Blur / Sharpen DAVINCI RESOLVE POST-PRODUCTION LENS @FULL WIDE LENS @MID-ZOOM LENS @FULL TELE REAL RATINGS After testing each lens-sensor combo, I like to know if the rendering is going to look realistic SOOC (S traight O ut o f C amera) or if it will need a LUT (to match the shots to other lenses and cameras). CONTRAST IS THE CONTRAST "REAL"? SHARPNESS IS THE SHARPNESS "REAL"? NOISE IS THE NOISE "REAL"? COLOR IS THE COLOR "REAL"? *Click here to learn more about "REAL" Ratings . These ratings are AFTER my custom settings are applied (most combos don't look real good with default settings). NOTES: NEW NOTES: ... (BELOW IS FROM TIFFEN BPM18): (These new settings are for using the lens with the Tiffen Black Pro Mist 1/8.) I started this test because I wasn't able to get this lens-sensor combo (or with G85) to work very well UNFILTERED (see my older notes below). So, while testing I noticed a number of interesting things, including that this filter (with the specific settings I use) is reducing the compression artifacts that were occurring in video (when using it UNFILTERED). Also, no surprise, but using this filter makes this lens more prone to flare (need a lens hood or matte box) and though this can reduce the contrast in certain lighting situations (i.e. pointing toward a light source) the flare doesn't look that bad. So, while I didn't like the results of this lens UNFILTERED, I now feel pretty good about using it with these settings (which include the Tiffen BPM18/Black Pro Mist 1/8). OLDER NOTES (from UNFILTERED test): When I started this test, I was surprised, as I had heard so many people say good things about this lens, but when compared with a lot of the vintage lenses I've been testing, this thing isn't very good...so let me explain. When I started this test (at -0-0-0-0 using the Natural profile) what immediately jumped out at me were the outlines on the edges of objects, which I'm pretty sure is due to over-sharpening...yet at the same time, the image was soft and needed sharpening! This is a problem, because to remove the outlines on the edges of things, you have to REDUCE the SHARPENING...but doing that will mean the image needs even MORE sharpening during post production, so I may have to see how far I can take the sharpening in post production (using Davinci Resolve). The goal of our camera settings is to improve what we call the "lens-sensor relationship" by adjusting the contrast, sharpness, noise reduction and color to create an image that looks less digital and more organic (more like film, etc). Therefore, the first step is to apply the custom settings while shooting, and the second is to add a lens-sensor LUT, to finalize the image.
- Nikon 18-55 Panasonic G7 CINELIKE D
Test looks decent (so far) but I need more sample footage to get a better feel for this lens-sensor combo. Any links below are affiliate links. FILTER: None Nikon 18-55 ADAPTER: Nikon F/G-M43 Panasonic G7 CineLike D "PHOTO STYLE" LENS-SENSOR LUT CONTRAST -1 SHARPNESS -2 NOISE +5 SATURATION -1 HIGHLIGHT SHADOW Standard iDYNAMIC OFF LUMINANCE LEVEL Unsharp Mask* ADOBE POST-PRODUCTION AMOUNT RADIUS THRESHOLD Blur / Sharpen DAVINCI RESOLVE POST-PRODUCTION LENS @FULL WIDE LENS @MID-ZOOM LENS @FULL TELE REAL RATINGS After testing each lens-sensor combo, I like to know if the rendering is going to look realistic SOOC (S traight O ut o f C amera) or if it will need a LUT (to match the shots to other lenses and cameras). CONTRAST ? IS THE CONTRAST "REAL"? SHARPNESS ? IS THE SHARPNESS "REAL"? NOISE IS THE NOISE "REAL"? COLOR ? IS THE COLOR "REAL"? *Click here to learn more about "REAL" Ratings . These ratings are AFTER my custom settings are applied (most combos don't look real good with default settings). NOTES: Test looks decent (so far) but I need more sample footage to get a better feel for this lens-sensor combo. The goal of our camera settings is to improve what we call the "lens-sensor relationship" by adjusting the contrast, sharpness, noise reduction and color to create an image that looks less digital and more organic (more like film, etc). Therefore, the first step is to apply the custom settings while shooting, and the second is to add a lens-sensor LUT, to finalize the image.
- Rode VideoMic Pro R Zoom H1n BOOM
Normally I would add an AUX. (headphone) amplifier for the "BOOM" proximity, but in this case, using what I consider the maximum record level of 6.3 (on the dial) of the Zoom H1n worked pretty well. I've learned that this recorder (and many of the budget Zoom recorders) have too much self-noise above 6.3 (or 63 on the Zoom H1). "BOOM" Proximity [35 inches / 88.8 cm] Zoom H1n BOOST: None Rode VideoMic Pro R WINDSCREEN: FOAM (Stock) WAV 24-bit/96kHz REC. SETTINGS Off REC. LOWCUT Off REC. LIMITER 6.3 REC. LEVEL AUX. SETTINGS AUX. BASS AUX. HIGH-LOW AUX. OUTPUT MIC. SETTINGS ON MIC. LOWCUT N/A MIC. HIGH PASS +20 MIC. BOOST (RFI) RADIO FREQUENCY INTERFERENCE LESS THAN 1.1ft / 0.34m BETWEEN 1.1ft / 0.34m -2.2ft / 0.67m BETWEEN 2.2ft / 0.67m -3.3ft / 1m BETWEEN 3.3ft / 1m -4.4ft / 1.34m Published: May 4, 2022 at 2:25:07 PM REAL RATINGS After testing each microphone, I like to know if it sounds realistic (accurate lows/bass, mids, highs/treble) in combination with the recorder and/or AUX. amplifier, to see if it needs EQ. LOWS/BASS DO THE "LOWS" SOUND REAL? MIDS DO THE "MIDS" SOUND REAL? HIGHS/TREBLE DO THE "HIGHS" SOUND REAL? NOTES: Normally I would add an AUX. (headphone) amplifier for the "BOOM" proximity, but in this case, using what I consider the maximum record level of 6.3 (on the dial) of the Zoom H1n worked pretty well. I've learned that this recorder (and many of the budget Zoom recorders) have too much self-noise above 6.3 (or 63 on the Zoom H1). Remember to always monitor your audio while you're recording (using accurate headphones) because good settings can't fix bad audio. Also, these settings will not establish the exact level you'll need for every scene, but the goal is to provide a good starting point that will become clean, after adjusting in post. Additionally, these "custom settings" are used to make the Microphone-Specific EQ files work (as they won't work as intended if any of they aren't used). The EQ files were created to correct any imperfections of the microphone and/or wind protection (FOAM and/or FURRY) and were made in Audacity (the free audio editor) to make them as affordable & universal as possible.
- Forbidden Road Camping Stool
REAL REVIEWS Long-term reviews of budget photo & video gear. KIT PLAN RECOMMENDATION: BASIC KIT Forbidden Road Camping Stool This image is 100% REAL, and no A.I. (or Photoshop compositing) were used to make it, and I know because I took it myself. Quality? LIGHT USE OK Yes MEDIUM USE OK Yes HEAVY USE OK ? Portable? POCKET No CAMERA BAG No BACKPACK Yes Affordable? AVERAGE NEW PRICE NA *Indicates SALE price. Amazon AFFILIATE LINK AVERAGE USED PRICE NA **Indicates BUY NOW price. Ebay AFFILIATE LINK Common? ON AMAZON Yes ON EBAY No Easy To Use? SKILL LEVEL EASY These reviews are just my opinion and are focused on my Q.P.A.C.E. packing method, so they're not comprehensive. I wrote these mostly to help me remember what items worked for my KIT PLANS (and which didn't). If I said anything negative I apologize, as these products still may work well for you in your situation, but they were not Q.P.A.C.E (Quality, Portable, Affordable, Common, Easy-to-Use) enough for my budget filmmaking KIT PLANS .
- Rokinon 24 3.5 Tilt Shift CPL Panasonic S9 CINELIKE D2
This was my second test of this lens-sensor combination, and last time I was using the NATURAL profile, but I found that the characteristics of this lens (color rendering, etc.) are working better with CINELIKE D2 (so that's what I use now). My use case for this lens is focused on architectural content. I'll need to create a Lightroom preset (for processing bracketed still photos) as well, because that is the traditional workflow...but I'm kind of interested in seeing if I can be a little bit innovative, and try out the real-time LUT option as well :-) Any links below are affiliate links. FILTER: CPL (PolarPro) Rokinon 24 3.5 Tilt Shift ADAPTER: Minolta AF (Sony A) to L Panasonic S9 Cinelike D2 "PHOTO STYLE" LENS-SENSOR LUT CONTRAST -0.5 SHARPNESS -3.5 NOISE -0 SATURATION +1 HIGHLIGHT SHADOW -3.5+3.5 iDYNAMIC OFF LUMINANCE LEVEL 0-1023 Unsharp Mask* ADOBE POST-PRODUCTION AMOUNT RADIUS THRESHOLD Blur / Sharpen DAVINCI RESOLVE POST-PRODUCTION LENS @FULL WIDE LENS @MID-ZOOM LENS @FULL TELE REAL RATINGS After testing each lens-sensor combo, I like to know if the rendering is going to look realistic SOOC (S traight O ut o f C amera) or if it will need a LUT (to match the shots to other lenses and cameras). CONTRAST B IS THE CONTRAST "REAL"? SHARPNESS B IS THE SHARPNESS "REAL"? NOISE A IS THE NOISE "REAL"? COLOR B IS THE COLOR "REAL"? *Click here to learn more about "REAL" Ratings . These ratings are AFTER my custom settings are applied (most combos don't look real good with default settings). NOTES: This was my second test of this lens-sensor combination, and last time I was using the NATURAL profile, but I found that the characteristics of this lens (color rendering, etc.) are working better with CINELIKE D2 (so that's what I use now). My use case for this lens is focused on architectural content. I'll need to create a Lightroom preset (for processing bracketed still photos) as well, because that is the traditional workflow...but I'm kind of interested in seeing if I can be a little bit innovative, and try out the real-time LUT option as well :-) The goal of our camera settings is to improve what we call the "lens-sensor relationship" by adjusting the contrast, sharpness, noise reduction and color to create an image that looks less digital and more organic (more like film, etc). Therefore, the first step is to apply the custom settings while shooting, and the second is to add a lens-sensor LUT, to finalize the image.
- Panasonic FZ1000 | SilverLight Photo & Video Co.
For the money, I don't currently recommend this camera if you're just getting into budget filmmaking. I've been testing this in addition to the G7, GX85 and G85, and I would spend my money on a G85, GX85 (or even a G7) before buying a GH4. The GH4 screen is so inaccurate, you need an external monitor to use it (the GX85 and G85 are better, the G7 screen okay). You can get decent results from the GH4 (especially with my custom settings) but the lack of IBIS makes it a no-go for me. CAMERAS Panasonic FZ1000 You can't change the lens on the FZ1000, so it gets a whole page! I'm now convinced the FZ1000 is a decent (budget) filmmaking tool. After over 2 years of testing, I figured out how to make it produce a "non-digital" image (using custom camera settings) which are on my website. It's a great tool to buy before buying an expensive TELE lens, especially if you're mostly using it OUTDOORS. The small 1" sensor is okay in LOW LIGHT, but it's not the best. SETTINGS GEAR BLOG TIPS TEST FOOTAGE TEST #1 TEST #2 TEST #3 SETTINGS Settings BARE Panasonic FZ1000 #ad ND8 (GOBE) Panasonic FZ1000 #ad RAYNOX DCR-150 Panasonic FZ1000 #ad GEAR Gear ND8 Filter (Gobe) #ad Raynox DCR-150 (MACRO) #ad Leather Camera Case #ad Camera Rig (Option 1) #ad Camera Rig (Option 2) #ad Camera Rig (Option 3) #ad BLOG Blog Is the FZ1000 Good for (Budget) Filmmaking? Food Photography with the FZ1000 (& App) TIPS Tips Buy It Used (In Good Condition) Don't Use In Low Light (ISO 800 max.) Use an ND8 Filter (OUTDOORS) Use My Custom Settings (without a filter) Use My Custom Settings (with a filter) Use a Camera Cage (for VIDEO) Use a Heavy Monopod (to "fly") The Panasonic Image App Is Fun (INDOORS) The Built-In Lens Is Great (Leica) It's NOT Good for Macro (Get a Raynox DCR-150 ) #ad REMEMBER TO "REFRESH" PAGE TO SEE NEW DATA






